Ryver vs. Slack

We think Slack is a good team chat tool. Really.

It’s far superior to email. And Slack is popular with programmers and IT teams. 

Those people love it because it’s geeky and much better than old-fashioned tools like HipChat™ or IRC for chatting.

Like Slack, Ryver has unstructured team chat. And Ryver adds structured Topics, for longer, more focused forum-like discussions.

So what’s wrong with Slack?

Slack is great at a simple idea: chat for teams. It’s useful, in spite of 2 fatal flaws.

Slack’s First Fatal Flaw: Slack Lacks Tasks

Talk without action is mere chatter.

  • You chatter about who is doing what.
  • You chatter about when it should be done.
  • You chatter about how it will get done.

Slack gives you no way to turn all that chatter into tasks. Slack offers no way to assign, schedule, organize or track those tasks.

If you want to turn Talk into Action, you need to turn Chat into useful, trackable Tasks.

Slack lacks Tasks.

Ryver: The Seamless Integration of Team Task Management + Team Communication

Ryver is the only world-class team communication tool that seamlessly integrates world-class team task management.

  • Turn any message in Ryver into trackable tasks at the push of a button.
  • Assign, schedule, organize and track those tasks.  
  • Set automated alerts to remind your teams (and yourself) to check progress on those tasks.

With Ryver task management everyone sees what they must do, when they must get it done, and what everyone else is working on – at all times.

Well… But Slack is Free! (Isn’t it?)

True. If all you need is very limited chat, Slack is fine.

If you use Slack as a real team in the real world, you’ll ultimately pay for it.

Slack’s free version is too restrictive.

Slack says “10K Chat Search Limit”

Free Slack only keeps your last 10,000 chats. Sounds like a lot, right? Well…

A typical 8 person team generates about 10,000 chats every 2-3 weeks. So if you need to search for something you chatted about 6 months ago… Or two months ago… Or even last month… you are plain out of luck. It’s gone!

Slack makes you pay.

Ryver is more effective. Ryver saves everything so you can always search for and find anything, no matter when you discussed it.

Slack says “5GB Storage Limit”

Free Slack gives your team 5GB of free storage. If you ever need more than 5GB of total storage, well then…

Slack makes you pay.

That’s just silly. 1GB of cloud storage costs about a nickel on Amazon servers where both Ryver and Slack run.

Ryver is more effective. Ryver gives you unlimited data storage.

Slack says “No Guests Allowed”

Hey, do you want to invite guests to your team?

Slack makes you pay.

What’s the point of a “team communication tool” that won’t let you communicate with everyone who needs to be on the team?

Ryver is more effective. For the price of just 8 Slack users, Ryver gives you unlimited free members and unlimited free guests.

Slack’s Second Fatal Flaw: Painful Pricing

Want to add another member to Slack? You gotta pay.

Every. Single. Time.  

Want to add another guest. You gotta pay.

Every. Single. Time.

Each time you add another user, Slack gets more expensive.

How expensive? Try $96 per year per user for their cheapest paid version. And it could easily cost double that!

Say you have 15 people on your team. That’s $1,440 a year, just for chatter.

Yet teams are fluid. People come and go. If you have to play Budget Roulette just to add a new user to the team, you’ll think twice about inviting new members or guests.

Might as well use email…

Isn’t this supposed to make work more effective?

Ryver is More Affordable

Ryver’s flat-rate pricing lets you build fluid teams without breaking the bank.

People and projects come and go. Different departments, different regions, even different organizations all working together on the same team.

With Ryver, every user can have  the freedom to create new teams. And the power to invite whoever they need to participate, whenever they’re needed.

Inviting new members and guests to your team shouldn’t require budget approval. It should be as simple as sending an email.

And with Ryver, it is that simple.

Ryver is More Effective

You will use Ryver very differently than Slack. Since Ryver has flat-rate pricing, you never hesitate to invite someone who should be on the team.

And Ryver isn’t just chatter. It’s world-class team communication integrated with world-class team task management.

  • Messages: With Ryver, all your data is available all the time. There is no limit.
  • Users: Ryver’s flat-rate pricing makes it easy to invite anyone who needs to be on the team.
  • Storage: For one simple flat rate, Ryver gives you unlimited data storage. Why? Because it costs us about a nickel  per gigabyte!
  • Tasks: Turn any message into assignable, trackable tasks at the push of a button.

Ryver is More Agile

Ryver Topics

Ryver is a great chat engine, with all the features you demand. It’s good for short, back-and-forth questions and answers.

However, don’t you hate it when your discussions are pushed up, out of sight in the chat window. All your chats mix with other chats about other topics? Chat is a lousy way to organize long topical discussions.

That’s why Ryver also has topics.

With topics, your team can conduct long, topic-based discussions that are easy to follow, easy to contribute to and easy to search. Topics lets discussions go on for weeks without getting lost in a bunch of rapid-fire chat.

(In the spirit of full disclosure, Slack has something they call Posts for topics too. It’s… ugly. And hard to use. Maybe that’s why almost nobody uses it. And most users don’t even know where it is.)

Ryver DMs

Sometimes you want 1-on-1 private conversations without including the whole team. That’s why Ryver also includes direct messaging to anyone – user or guest.

And More…

In addition to Topics, Chats, DMs and Tasks, Ryver gives your team:

  • Centralized notifications
  • A Summary Stream where tasks and topics flow – See everything new from all your Teams in a quick glance
  • Files saved in context for every Team
  • Native apps/clients for Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, and Linux that stay in sync

Slack Killer?

Is Ryver trying to be the “Slack Killer”? Of course not! Slack is a fine chat tool with a pile of venture capital money in the bank. No one’s going to kill Slack anytime soon.

Next generation Work Productivity is a massive new software category. It has room for several major winners. Ryver will be one of them.

How Does Ryver Manage to Be So Affordable?

Modern cloud computing makes the cost of adding a new customer about a dime. Slack charges around $96 per user per year for every single user. What?!

Slack gets crazy-expensive in a hurry.

Ryver’s flat-rate plan gives you:

  • Unlimited Teams
  • Unlimited Search
  • Unlimited Storage
  • Unlimited Tasks

Coming soon: Ryver Enterprise Edition

Ryver Enterprise Edition with Single Sign On and other enterprise features will beat the pants off Slack’s overpriced Enterprise monstrosity. Heck, they won’t even tell you what it costs! As one of our big customers with over 1,000 users recently told us, “Slack is crazy expensive for a product that’s just chat.”

Why Should I Trust Ryver? (I’ve Never Heard of You.)