Ryver vs. Slack

We love Slack. But we realized that in order to function properly...

Team Communications MUST be FREE.



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Slack is an awesome team communication tool that has taken the world by storm. Dev teams love it because it’s so much better than old-fashioned chat tools like HipChat or IRC for getting work done.

Who is Slack?

Slack is a great execution of a simple idea: chat for teams! That’s cool, it’s useful. But it suffers from a fatal flaw: Their business model is all wrong.

In today’s world, most teams are not limited to internal employees. Real-world team communications are fluid, constantly changing, and often require input from many stakeholders and non-employees, such as:

  • • Important customers
  • • Contractors
  • • Vendors
  • • Partners
  • • Advisors
  • • Investors

In most cases Slack makes you pay for each user and limits how many guest accounts you get and what they can do. Having to pay for each user means you tend not to invite a lot of people you’d like to have on the Team. This friction is like throwing sand into an engine. You need to have the freedom to invite anyone you want and not worry about money.

Slack’s business model creates a big hindrance to the building of large, functional, decentralized teams. To control costs with Slack there has to be a centralized Admin to give permission to build new teams and add new members. When you need to invite someone new, you’ll need to ask permission from an Admin (usually IT--or worse, the CFO). Do you really want to have to make a financial case for each new person on your team? It’s 90s-era centralized control. Imagine if using email required YOU to pay for everyone you wanted to send an email to!

If it’s not free, it’s only the illusion of Team Communications. It’s not how modern teams actually work.

What's wrong with Slack?

Not if you use it as a real team in the real world. Slack’s free version is so severely crippled that it is nothing more than a short trial for small, internal teams. If you REALLY use Slack, you will pay for it!

No Guests Allowed

You need guest access if you want to communicate with anyone outside your internal team. Slack makes you pay if you want guests. Ryver gives you unlimited free guests.

10K Chat Search Limit

Slack’s search is really awful! You must pay if you want to search beyond your most recent 10,000 chats. That’s only about 20 days for a typical 10-person team. Ryver provides unlimited search.

5GB Storage Limit

If you need more than 5GB, Slack makes you pay. Ryver has unlimited data storage.

Isn't Slack Free?

There is the obvious – Ryver is completely FREE.

Free is nice, but it means more than saving money…

IT MEANS YOU USE Ryver very DIFFERENTLY than Slack. You never have to hesitate about building a new team with additional new users.

  • You invite all the people you need.
  • Every Member can create Teams and invite users with no concern ever about the costs.
  • Even Guests can be given the right to invite other guests that need to be on the team.
  • You push information and decision-making out to the edge of your entire organization.
  • Every stakeholder can have a say and know what is going on.
How is Ryver better?
What about features?

Chat is good but is terrible for threaded, thoughtful, topical discussions.

That’s where Posts come in. In addition to chat, Ryver uses Facebook-like Posts to allow your team to discuss specific subjects that spawn threaded, topical discussions.

Ryver has worked very hard to integrate chat with posts. Whenever you realize that parts of random chats have become an important topical discussion, you can “promote” them to a more formal Post.

Topical Posts, Centralized Notifications, a Post Stream of everything new from every Team, and Files in context of every Team, all combine to do a lot of things better than Slack. And yes, we have native Mac, Windows, iOS and Android clients that stay in sync.

And coming soon… Seamlessly integrated, collaborative Task Management. And we mean deeply integrated, not just a hand-off to another site. You will find that in some ways Ryver is just more refined.

Ryver combines chat with posts

We currently offer one version. It’s free (and ad-free). It’s un-crippled and offers unlimited users, teams, guests, search, storage, and integrations. Our mission is to allow every company to compete in a complex world using modern Team Communications. We have learned Team Communications simply HAS to be free.

To make sure Ryver is able to be a profitable, long term player, we have the Ryver Task Manager - Seamlessly integrated with Ryver Team Communications coming soon. Then we will ship Ryver Enterprise for big companies. These will be priced very creatively and competitively.

No! Slack has a really good product and $300M in the bank. No one is going to kill them. But Team Communications is a massive new software category with room for a few major winners. We expect to be one of them!

The features that Slack is charging money for MUST be free in order for teams to fully use them. Every modern company needs Team Communication to be competitive. Our mission is to give a real Team Communication tool to everyone, so we’ve made it free, like email.

We believe our free product is better than their paid product. But we are the underdog. Slack has a 24-month head start and a large user base, but sometimes David beats Goliath!

Is Ryver trying to be the Slack Killer?

This isn’t our first rodeo. Ryver was founded by Pat Sullivan, co-creator of the Contact Management software category and ACT!, the best-selling product that dominated that category for over 20 years. After selling ACT!, Pat created SalesLogix, the leading mid-market CRM solution, which he also sold.

In 2012, Pat recruited a team of great developers to solve the major problem with email. Email had become too slow for modern Team Communication. Buried inside the Inbox is a Team’s most important communication. Ryver is the best way to allow widely dispersed, decentralized Team Communication. Companies HAVE to become decentralized in the sharing of information in order to compete in a more complex and fast moving business environment.

Why should I trust Ryver?

Slack is an awesome team communication tool that has taken the world by storm. Dev teams love it because it’s so much better than old-fashioned chat tools like HipChat or IRC for getting work done.

Who is Slack?

Slack is a great execution of a simple idea: chat for teams! That’s cool, it’s useful. But it suffers from a fatal flaw: Their business model is all wrong.

In today’s world, most teams are not limited to internal employees. Real-world team communications are fluid, constantly changing, and often require input from many stakeholders and non-employees, such as:

  • • Important customers
  • • Contractors
  • • Vendors
  • • Partners
  • • Advisors
  • • Investors

In most cases Slack makes you pay for each user and limits how many guest accounts you get and what they can do. Having to pay for each user means you tend not to invite a lot of people you’d like to have on the Team. This friction is like throwing sand into an engine. You need to have the freedom to invite anyone you want and not worry about money.

Slack’s business model creates a big hindrance to the building of large, functional, decentralized teams. To control costs with Slack there has to be a centralized Admin to give permission to build new teams and add new members. When you need to invite someone new, you’ll need to ask permission from an Admin (usually IT--or worse, the CFO). Do you really want to have to make a financial case for each new person on your team? It’s 90s-era centralized control. Imagine if using email required YOU to pay for everyone you wanted to send an email to!

If it’s not free, it’s only the illusion of Team Communications. It’s not how modern teams actually work.

What's wrong with Slack?

Not if you use it as a real team in the real world. Slack’s free version is so severely crippled that it is nothing more than a short trial for small, internal teams. If you REALLY use Slack, you will pay for it!

No Guests Allowed

You need guest access if you want to communicate with anyone outside your internal team. Slack makes you pay if you want guests. Ryver gives you unlimited free guests.

10K Chat Search Limit

Slack’s search is really awful! You must pay if you want to search beyond your most recent 10,000 chats. That’s only about 20 days for a typical 10-person team. Ryver provides unlimited search.

5GB Storage Limit

If you need more than 5GB, Slack makes you pay. Ryver has unlimited data storage.

Isn't Slack Free?

There is the obvious – Ryver is completely FREE.

Free is nice, but it means more than saving money…

IT MEANS YOU USE Ryver very DIFFERENTLY than Slack. You never have to hesitate about building a new team with additional new users.

  • You invite all the people you need.
  • Every Member can create Teams and invite users with no concern ever about the costs.
  • Even Guests can be given the right to invite other guests that need to be on the team.
  • You push information and decision-making out to the edge of your entire organization.
  • Every stakeholder can have a say and know what is going on.
How is Ryver better?
What about features?

Chat is good but is terrible for threaded, thoughtful, topical discussions.

That’s where Posts come in. In addition to chat, Ryver uses Facebook-like Posts to allow your team to discuss specific subjects that spawn threaded, topical discussions.

Ryver has worked very hard to integrate chat with posts. Whenever you realize that parts of random chats have become an important topical discussion, you can “promote” them to a more formal Post.

Topical Posts, Centralized Notifications, a Post Stream of everything new from every Team, and Files in context of every Team, all combine to do a lot of things better than Slack. And yes, we have native Mac, Windows, iOS and Android clients that stay in sync.

And coming soon… Seamlessly integrated, collaborative Task Management. And we mean deeply integrated, not just a hand-off to another site. You will find that in some ways Ryver is just more refined.

Slack compared to Ryver Ryver combines chat with posts

We currently offer one version. It’s free (and ad-free). It’s un-crippled and offers unlimited users, teams, guests, search, storage, and integrations. Our mission is to allow every company to compete in a complex world using modern Team Communications. We have learned Team Communications simply HAS to be free.

To make sure Ryver is able to be a profitable, long term player, we have the Ryver Task Manager - Seamlessly integrated with Ryver Team Communications coming soon. Then we will ship Ryver Enterprise for big companies. These will be priced very creatively and competitively.

No! Slack has a really good product and $300M in the bank. No one is going to kill them. But Team Communications is a massive new software category with room for a few major winners. We expect to be one of them!

The features that Slack is charging money for MUST be free in order for teams to fully use them. Every modern company needs Team Communication to be competitive. Our mission is to give a real Team Communication tool to everyone, so we’ve made it free, like email.

We believe our free product is better than their paid product. But we are the underdog. Slack has a 24-month head start and a large user base, but sometimes David beats Goliath!

Is Ryver trying to be the Slack Killer?

This isn’t our first rodeo. Ryver was founded by Pat Sullivan, co-creator of the Contact Management software category and ACT!, the best-selling product that dominated that category for over 20 years. After selling ACT!, Pat created SalesLogix, the leading mid-market CRM solution, which he also sold.

In 2012, Pat recruited a team of great developers to solve the major problem with email. Email had become too slow for modern Team Communication. Buried inside the Inbox is a Team’s most important communication. Ryver is the best way to allow widely dispersed, decentralized Team Communication. Companies HAVE to become decentralized in the sharing of information in order to compete in a more complex and fast moving business environment.

Why should I trust Ryver?

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